Moving to SF and would like some advice

topic posted Fri, May 13, 2005 - 12:51 PM by  .[matty].
Hello everyone-

I will be finishing up with my school program here in Seattle at Brian Utting School of Massage in August and will be moving home to the Bay Area shortly after. I know that there is no state-wide governing body in California regulating practice so I'm wondering if any therapists in this region can tell me what I need to know (what I *REALLY* need to know) about setting up a practice and what the healing arts community is like there. I know there's tons of you in the Bay in this tribe!!
Specifically, I read somewhere that practicing from home is "illegal"?? really? huh?
Is getting a liscence in SF a city thing or a county thing?

If you can drop any knowledge on me about massaging in SF, I'd shower you with kisses!!! :) Feel free to post here or message me individually. Thanks a bunch!!
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.[matty].
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

    Sat, June 11, 2005 - 8:44 PM
    I read that they recently legalized practicing out of your home... but I'd talk to the City about it.

    You'll need to:
    - download forms from the Department of Public Health website (application and fingerprinting)
    - make an appointment (not necessary, but will make your life so much better) with the police department for a "live scan" fingerprinting... get there early with your fingerprinting form
    - go to the Department of Public Health and turn in the application ($100 application fee), let them photocopy your ID and Diploma showing at least 100 or 200 hours (depending on which license you're going for)
    - take the exam, there's one each month
    - DPH will call you to tell you that you passed, then you'll go there and get another form...
    - walk a few blocks with this form to City Hall and pay the tax collector some money ($75 a year, somewhat prorated)
    - take your receipt back to DPH and they give you your license and such

    It takes the PD about three weeks to process your background check, so go there ASAP or it will hold up your license.

    I took the Advanced exam. You could get 15 out of 50 wrong and still pass. It was all Swedish/western anatomy.... 30 questions were a mix of multiple choice and True/False... there were 20 matching questions (labels/diagram), 10 muscular anatomy and 10 skeletal.

    Some of the MC questions were like "which muscle only crosses one joint" or "which muscle doesn't cross the knee". Others involved the definition of petrissage, or which area of the body is appropriate for hacking.
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      Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

      Mon, August 7, 2006 - 4:02 PM
      actually I believe that Josh is right. However you shoudl check with your city's regulations, laws and if there are any necessary licences that you would need.

      Also, many residential communities are not zoned for mixed use (AKA work and home) but there are areas where this is OK. I happen to live in an area, in a building that is zoned "Live-Work" and is a mixed use residential and commercial zone so it is OK.

      Scott
  • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

    Sat, September 17, 2005 - 2:02 PM
    a few things to consider.

    first off, zoning laws. you can't run a business in your house (legally) that has people coming and going. they simply will not give youa business license if you try to do that. that's probably the illegal part of that. however, i know many, MANY therapists working from home. as long as there isn't a stream of people that will bother your neighbors into complaining, you don't relaly need a business license. until they find out about you, and then, well, deal with that if it happens.

    regarding the state licensing BS. even though there isn't a licensing system in california, every county has it's own rules regarding the number of hours you have to have i nyour education. to make it even more frustrating, cities within the same county can have different requirements for different number of hours. SF has a 500 hour requirement. Berkeley is the same. walnut creek has a 75 hour requirement... it's city specific, so i would check with the city you're moving into.

    if you are in the east bay, i rent out massage rooms to therapists - you can access to 2 masage rooms 24/7 for about $250 - which is WAY cheaper than anything else you'll find around here. contact me if you'd like to find out more about this.

    hey - welcome to the bay area!
    • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

      Sun, September 18, 2005 - 7:09 AM
      Not sure if you are correct on SF requiring 500 hours. The city of SF only requires 100hrs to take their basic exam with the health dept, and 200hrs or more for the advanced exam, as Josh mentioned above.

      If you are referring to SF County, I am unaware of any countywide requirements, news to me.
    • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

      Thu, April 27, 2006 - 6:41 PM
      "first off, zoning laws. you can't run a business in your house (legally) that has people coming and going. they simply will not give youa business license if you try to do that. "

      This is not true for all parts of the Bay Area, however.

      I ran a massage practice from my apartment in Rohnert Park (Sonoma County) and had no problem getting my business license and massage permit while being completely upfront about the fact that it was in my home with all agencies involved.
      • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

        Thu, April 27, 2006 - 11:25 PM
        You can run a home based massage business in SF with a regular or advanced practitioner license if your home is not zoned commercial. On the other hand if you home is zoned commercially you must get a solo practitioner license and pass an inspection by a health department official. At least that is how I understood it when I looked into it a few months ago.
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      Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

      Mon, August 7, 2006 - 4:03 PM
      on your "zoning laws" statement: this is true. Partialy for traffic, partially for respect to the residential community and the issues of parking.

      I suppose he would have to get a business licence too, right?
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    Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

    Sat, September 17, 2005 - 2:04 PM
    get familiar with Craigslist, if you aren't already, its a great place to build a client especially if you have a concise message. . .welcome to the bay. . .hope your practice is doing well
    zeke
    • Re: Moving to SF and would like some advice

      Thu, April 27, 2006 - 11:33 AM
      wow thanks guys!! i had forgotten about this post until now...i'm in SF at the moment (haven't moved yet, here on vacation right now) but plans have been put on hold until this September to make my big move.
      I appreciate you all taking the time to respond. I posted this in a few other bodywork type tribes and this was the only place I got responses and I was getting the feeling that no one wanted to help a brotha out "everyman for his own"...

      I'm excited to move back home. thanks again for your notes!

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